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[javaee-security-spec users] [jsr375-experts] Re: Comments on Current Spec Content (take 3)

From: Ivar Grimstad <ivar.grimstad_at_gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2017 08:38:06 +0000

That makes sense. Thanks, Werner!

Ivar

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 9:34 AM Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> I believe a main reason is also licensing. The Spec document uses the Spec
> License (except 2 JSRs by Red Hat that somehow negotiated dual-licensing.
> so strictly speaking their Spec could be altered or "improved" under the
> Apache License without problems;-O) while all other "code" artifacts use
> the respective licenses of the RI in most cases now.
>
> Werner
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Ivar Grimstad <ivar.grimstad_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is there any reason for separating the spec document from the api code?
> Doesn't it make sense to keep it together as they will be following the
> same versioning scheme?
>
> Ivar
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 11:06 PM Will Hopkins <will.hopkins_at_oracle.com>
> wrote:
>
> Done.
>
>
> On 02/06/2017 05:00 PM, Will Hopkins wrote:
>
> Hearing no objections, I'll go ahead with the rename.
>
> On 02/06/2017 04:46 PM, arjan tijms wrote:
>
> +1
> Sounds good
>
> Btw, anyone has more comments about my reply to Will regarding his initial
> feedback?
>
> Kind regard,
> Arjan Tijms
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 10:40 PM, Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> +1
> no problem with that.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Will Hopkins <will.hopkins_at_oracle.com>
> wrote:
>
> Can we settle on "security-api" and "security-spec"? Those seem like the
> best compromise based on the various concerns expressed.
>
>
> On 02/06/2017 04:21 PM, Werner Keil wrote:
>
> Another thought since the artifactID is likely to remain that way even in
> future JSRs (beyond 375) why not use the artifactId "javax.security-api" ?
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 10:19 PM, Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> It's a little long.
> "sec-api" sounds extremely close to the old "spec-api" with just one
> character missing.
> So maybe something in between those two extremes?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 10:17 PM, Ivar Grimstad <ivar.grimstad_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Another thought: Why not call it what it is and use something like
> javaee-security-api?
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 10:15 PM Ivar Grimstad <ivar.grimstad_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I like sec-api or similar better than using the JSR number. This JSR will
> probably be followed by another for Security API 2.0 and will most likely
> be based on the same code base and continue using the same repo.
>
> Ivar
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 10:05 PM Will Hopkins <will.hopkins_at_oracle.com>
> wrote:
>
> The GitHub repo can be renamed any time (i.e., after java.net goes away).
>
> The migration plan is not yet definite, but I believe it will involve
> moving repos to GitHub, under a Java EE organization. I thought we could
> rename the repo at that time (since there would no longer be a need to sync
> with java.net).
>
> If you like jsr375-api better, I can rename it now. I also thought of
> sec-api. If so, I'll probably rename the spec as well, for consistency
> (i.e., jsr375-spec).
>
> Let me know what you think.
>
>
> On 02/06/2017 03:43 PM, Werner Keil wrote:
>
> Will java.net now be around after late April???
>
> Otherwise not sure, why naming around some strange behavior of a dying
> platform would be necessary?
>
> We could keep a temporary "hack" of "api-code" (unless someone came up
> with a much better name now ("jsr-api" maybe or "security-api") and change
> it later assuming java.net goes away as planned and is not prolonged now?
>
> Nailing it to this particular JSR number (similar to JSR 354) "jsr375-api"
> would also be another option.
>
> Regards,
> Werner
>
>
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