What about a Hackergarten? Do you think that's too early?
I saw you proposed MVC. Any plans for Soteria or would you rather wait till
Oracle outlines its visions for EE?
Werner
On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm just about to ask Heather, all EG members who are known to be there
> are CC so we can find a date that's best for everyone (e.g. nobody having a
> talk ;-D)
>
> Werner
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Ivar Grimstad <ivar.grimstad_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> +1 to a F2F meeting!
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 11:14 AM Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Guys,
>>>
>>> I'm not sure, if Jeff is likely Oracle's new Spec Lead for JSR 375 or
>>> just a "messenger", but the message for this JSR and its goals towards Java
>>> EE 8 at least include "O-Auth and OpenID Connect support" by the time the
>>> EE 8 release train is scheduled.
>>>
>>> David already spoke about possible adjustments to the exact scope or
>>> requirements of JSRs like 375 when he mentioned it at JavaLand, but he also
>>> called it "Cloud relevant" and so did other sources at Oracle. And it is
>>> quite unlikely the aims like
>>>
>>> "O-Auth and OpenID Connect" can be reached elsewhere.
>>> Java EE 8 is supposed to run on Java SE 8, so a new "JEP" or SE 9 module is out of the question.
>>> JSR 351 (Identity Management where AFAIR OpenID was also experimented with) was withdrawn by Spec Lead Oracle,
>>> which leaves JSR 375 as its natural heir and successor.
>>> spoke
>>>
>>> Many of us including Ivar, Adam, David or myself are speakers at JavaOne.
>>> Red Hat, IBM and Oracle will obviously be there, too, regardless of the inviduals representing them in the EG.
>>>
>>> Are those who come to JavaOne happy to do a F2F meeting offered by Heather to Spec Lead and Experts?
>>>
>>> Sorry that Arjan does not seem to be there, but I recall the conference rooms have both audio and Wifi, so ideally he and others who cannot attend in person could also join the meeting by phone, Skype or Hangout.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>> Werner
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 2:31 AM, Jeff Tancill <jeff.tancill_at_oracle.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> FYI
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>> Subject: [javaee-spec users] [jsr366-experts] update to Java EE 8 plan
>>>> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 17:05:23 -0700
>>>> From: Bill Shannon <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com> <bill.shannon_at_oracle.com>
>>>> Reply-To: jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net
>>>> To: jsr366-experts_at_javaee-spec.java.net
>>>>
>>>> As many of you have read in the press [1], Oracle is reevaluating the
>>>> scope and plans for Java EE 8. Based on the changes we've seen in the
>>>> industry in recent years, we believe we need to do more to Java EE to
>>>> make it better suited for developing the next generation of cloud
>>>> and microservices applications.
>>>>
>>>> The current generation of enterprise Java applications is already well
>>>> supported by Java EE 7 in cloud services provided by Oracle and
>>>> others. As Anil Gaur said in his recent presentation to the JCP EC [2]:
>>>>
>>>> We would like the future of Java EE to be viable to next generation
>>>> of applications. These apps are composed and deployed differently
>>>> in cloud and require flexibility, reliability and scale. The
>>>> platform needs a new programming model that's geared towards
>>>> reactive style programming for building large-scale distributed
>>>> applications that are loosely coupled. In addition, we would like
>>>> to see HTTP/2, Config, State management, Eventual Consistency,
>>>> Multi-tenancy, O-Auth and OpenID Connect get included in the
>>>> platform.
>>>>
>>>> It is critical that Java EE reflect the needs of the community. We are
>>>> preparing another community survey, similar to the survey we did in
>>>> 2014 [3], to assess whether the community shares our views about
>>>> what's needed in Java EE. We expect this survey to be available in
>>>> the next few weeks. We'll also be looking at the results of other
>>>> surveys and community input, and will be continuing our discussions
>>>> with Java EE licensees. At JavaOne we'll be presenting our proposals
>>>> for updates to Java EE and gathering feedback from attendees.
>>>>
>>>> After considering the results of our survey and other feedback, we'll
>>>> adjust the plans for Java EE 8, with a goal of delivering Java EE 8
>>>> within a year. Much of the initially planned work is nearly complete
>>>> or well on its way, but new work will need to be done more quickly than
>>>> usual. Obviously all desired work will not be able to be done in Java
>>>> EE 8 and some planned work may no longer be important.
>>>>
>>>> This short schedule for Java EE 8 will allow us to move quickly into
>>>> planning for Java EE 9, which will be able to take advantage of the
>>>> Java SE 9 Jigsaw module system, and will give us more time for some of
>>>> the larger improvements to the Java EE programming model.
>>>>
>>>> Stay tuned for more information about our community survey, and join us
>>>> at JavaOne to hear more about our proposals for Java EE.
>>>>
>>>> Your opinion is valuable to us and we look forward to collaborating with you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [1]http://www.infoworld.com/article/3098007/java/oracle-to-reboot-java-ee-for-the-cloud.html
>>>> [2]https://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/ec-public/materials/2016-08-09/August-2016-Public-Minutes.html
>>>> [3] https://blogs.oracle.com/ldemichiel/
>>>>
>>>>
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