Hi,
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Under whose control are these, Oracle I assume?
>
Indeed, fully Oracle. The EG or committers also can't see the exact output
of those jobs nor can anyone outside Oracle restart them manually
(sometimes needed for a kind of race condition in the build when the main
milestone changes). We do get email though from build failures.
Kind regards,
Arjan Tijms
>
> Unless this is restricted to java.net/Oracle staff, I am more than happy
> to help with setting up jobs for Soteria, etc.
> That (with Jenkins) is my day job, and I also deal with Hudson via Eclipse
> projects like UMo.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Werner
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 12:06 PM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I know, OpenJDK (8) had this https://adopt-openjdk.ci.cloudbees.com/
>>> but I can't say, if CloudBees or JCP/Oracle would also do this kind of
>>> stuff for Java EE (would be nice though;-)
>>>
>>
>> Every commit to Mojarra (within a timeframe) triggers a rather large set
>> of Hudson based jobs for building and running all tests (multiple
>> permutations), and then eventually the TCK and somewhat after that (in a
>> different department) something called "ADF tests". The results of each
>> such build can be found here:
>> https://maven.java.net/content/repositories/snapshots/org/glassfish/javax.faces/
>>
>> Whether anyone wants or can set this up for Soteria is perhaps not a
>> given though.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Arjan Tijms
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I hope, some container vendors involved may help. Looking at e.g.
>>> DeltaSpike in the Apache Jenkins CI server:
>>> https://builds.apache.org/view/A-D/view/DeltaSpike/ you can see, how
>>> many variations and different containers (mostly through Arquillian, I
>>> guess unless you already use it here it could help) it builds against.
>>>
>>> If we found a friendly CI place and container host in the "cloud" we
>>> could try something similar, easily showing which participating servers
>>> still have problems (and it would be in the best interest of the provider
>>> more than the EG to make it work sooner or later;-)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Werner
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 6:24 PM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Would be cool if someone could setup a CI container for them. I'll add
>>>> the actual tests in the near future (hopefully next week at the latest).
>>>>
>>>> I also added a compatibility note:
>>>>
>>>> Soteria currently fully runs on Payara 4.1.1.161 and JBoss WildFly 10,
>>>> and mostly on GlassFish 4.1.1. Soteria unfortunately does not run on
>>>> Liberty 8 or 9 at the moment due to missing support for CDI in server
>>>> authentication modules. Soteria does not run at all on WebLogic 12.2.1 due
>>>> to a problem with server authentication modules working at all.
>>>>
>>>> Btw, no issues with the error messages here (yet)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ok, if those are integration tests, not just sample apps, then it
>>>>> makes sense in a separate module under the RI repo.
>>>>> Especially for those it would be awesome, if we could automate and run
>>>>> them in a CI container somewhere (maybe aside from Oracle other corporate
>>>>> EG members like TomEE or Red Hat/JBoss/OpenShift might be able to help with
>>>>> that?;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Btw. I keep getting strange error messages when the mailing list tries
>>>>> to auto-forward from "experts" to "users" since around noon CET. Anybody
>>>>> else also faces the same?
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>> Werner
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 6:15 PM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A small detail, but wondering, if example apps should be in
>>>>>>> https://github.com/javaee-security-spec/soteria/tree/master/test
>>>>>>> rather than
>>>>>>> https://github.com/javaee-security-spec/javaee-security-examples
>>>>>>> ?;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I put them in soteria/test just like
>>>>>> https://github.com/spericas/ozark/tree/master/test does.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you look closer at each entry in ozark/test, then it becomes clear
>>>>>> that each one is a separate (war) app. The integration (not unit) test then
>>>>>> simply uses HTML unit to request a URL from the deployed war and makes some
>>>>>> assertions. See eg
>>>>>> https://github.com/spericas/ozark/blob/master/test/facelets/src/test/java/org/glassfish/ozark/test/facelets/FaceletsIT.java
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's the same approach as uses in the Java EE 7 samples project, and
>>>>>> actually Mojarra. The IT tests are both examples/sampels as tests.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh and btw, "and RI implementation" sounds redundant, as "RI"
>>>>>>> already stands for "Reference Implementation" but that's even smaller, just
>>>>>>> cosmetic;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmmm, indeed ;) It's a bit like saying EJB bean. You do see this a
>>>>>> lot though, but I've changed it nevertheless. Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>> Arjan Tijms
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Werner
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It will if at all require help by the PMO. Let's see, how that
>>>>>>>> goes, otherwise we could always use one of two options, either the
>>>>>>>> "gh_pages" branch (see the same for JSR 363 API:
>>>>>>>> http://unitsofmeasurement.github.io/unit-api/ its primary goal is
>>>>>>>> to hold JavaDoc or Maven site, which is why the entry page is still rather
>>>>>>>> basic ;-) in the new Soteria repo or an organization-wide GitHub site
>>>>>>>> (similar to http://unitsofmeasurement.github.io/) on GitHub, too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>>>> Werner
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:53 PM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think the management spec lead mentioned not being able to
>>>>>>>>> create projects on java.net either.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyway, I've created the soteria repo at
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/javaee-security-spec/soteria
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It contains the upstream api, the RI implementation and the
>>>>>>>>> example apps in the test module. These apps can be used in a later stage to
>>>>>>>>> function as actual tests. I pretty much followed the template from MVC.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I also followed JSF and MVC with using "m01" as the version
>>>>>>>>> instead of the previous edr1. That way we can release milestones if needed
>>>>>>>>> and then a specific milestone can be submitted as an EDR.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>> Arjan Tijms
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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