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[javaee-security-spec users] [jsr375-experts] Re: Social Media presence for Soteria

From: Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2016 11:38:59 +0100

At least Reza is very eager blogging all the time, maybe he could help us
with some of the things like updating RI list, etc.?;-)

Cheers,

Werner

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Sounds great, thanks.
>
> If anybody has enough rights in JIRA we could schedule these accordingly
> and define at least "versions" for each of these EDR and other steps.
>
> I noticed, the larger Glassfish community has also not been updated for 3
> years now (guess Oracle is not so interested in Glassfish now after all?
> ;-|)
> https://glassfish.java.net/rel-projects.html
>
> MVC and JSR 375 RIs should be listed there and if there is a CI server
> instance for Glassfish or related projects, we should try to run those on a
> CI build, too.
>
> Known public CI servers like Travis or Circle-CI would also work if we had
> to do this on our own.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Werner
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:43 AM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 8:28 PM, Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ideally we should keep API/Spec (it's simply Asciidoc like JSR 354) and
>>> RI separate.
>>> Snapshot repos are fine, we used JFrog OSS with JSRs 354 or 363 but
>>> Sonatype is just as good (possibly easier to get it to MavenCentral then)
>>>
>>
>> Indeed, we went specifically for that with Sonatype for OmniFaces.
>>
>>
>>
>>> From a process point we have up to 1 year from the Renewal Ballot, but
>>> of course it's always better to produce something earlier. Could always do
>>> EDR2 or more similar to MVC and others.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, I think it's best we do something like that.
>>
>> EDR1 is then roughly;
>>
>> * Authentication Mechanism base API
>> * Several implementations of authentication mechanisms
>> * Two mechanism interceptors; auto session and remember me
>> * Identity store base API
>> * Several implementations of identity stores
>> * Standard Principal for the caller (used by JSR 375 at least,
>> standardising this for the entire platform will be bigger task)
>>
>> For EDR2 to consider:
>>
>> * Multi authentication mechanism proposal from Darran
>> * Multi identity store proposal from Rudy
>> * Security context
>> * Security interceptor proposal from Reza et all
>>
>> For EDR3 to consider:
>> * Mandating containers doing 1:1 role mapping (we can't really implement
>> this using public APIs, but RI could do it using GlassFish specific code)
>> * web.xml integration/alignment
>>
>> There's (much) more on the TODO list like events, password aliasing and
>> more, but the above may be a guideline on how to proceed.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Arjan Tijms
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Werner
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 5:47 PM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Okay, so that remains an open question.
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile I've done a quick snapshot upload here using our omnnifaces
>>>> groupId:
>>>> https://oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/snapshots/org/omnifaces/soteria-edr1/1.0-SNAPSHOT/
>>>>
>>>> I made some choices with regard to naming and organisation here.
>>>>
>>>> Both API and impl. are in the same Maven module, just as two different
>>>> packages. MVC has the API as a separate artefact in a separate repo, with
>>>> the implementation depending on that. JSF however has api and impl as two
>>>> folders in one larger project. Once the API is a little bit more stable and
>>>> we can more easily upload both artefacts under their own groupIds, we
>>>> should do the separation I guess.
>>>>
>>>> I also named the artefact "soteria-edr1" for now. It could have been
>>>> just soteria with "edr1" as the version number. For now I thought it was
>>>> easier and clearer to have a separate edr1 folder, and then later have an
>>>> edr2 etc, but we can change this of course. I just had to pick something
>>>> for now.
>>>>
>>>> I'll test a little with the snapshot and can do a Maven central upload
>>>> using the omnifaces groupId for the short term. This would make it easier
>>>> for people to at least try out the code in their own test projects.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Arjan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Not sure, who in the EG can do that, at least someone had to request
>>>>> upload privileges to MavenCentral for a groupId like org.glassfish.soteria
>>>>> and of course for javax.security.* too, otherwise it won't build ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Werner
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 12:49 AM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So along the lines of MVC it should be
>>>>>>> package org.glassfish.soteria;
>>>>>>> then ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just did the initial commit for the work in progress EDR1:
>>>>>> https://github.com/javaee-security-spec/javaee-security-proposals/commit/e482ba6580072ad82413a80c40e7d3112b83119a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The implementation package is org.glassfish.soteria ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please in the proposals repo try to use the license header plugin.
>>>>>>> Looking at e.g. JAX-RS, the header spans across multiple years for
>>>>>>> some JSRs (probably will be for MVC if they do something again)
>>>>>>> Copyright (c) 2010-2015 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights
>>>>>>> reserved.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had already copied the header manually to the API files, but I'll
>>>>>> try the license plug-in header next.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For promotion it would be cool if we can publish the work in progress
>>>>>> EDR1 jar to Maven central so people can more easily try it out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>> Arjan Tijms
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Right now the license plugin as of last year only uses the inception
>>>>>>> year (from the POM) but "currentYear" is also available. If you want I can
>>>>>>> run the license reformatting at any time when things are changed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Werner
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 6:18 PM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Great :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll do the package renaming tonight or tomorrow at the latest and
>>>>>>>> commit the whole to the proposals repo.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>> Arjan Tijms
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 9:08 AM, Rudy De Busscher <
>>>>>>>> rdebusscher_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I created the Twitter account @Soteria_RI to promote the RI and
>>>>>>>>> evangelise Java EE Security in general.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> best regards
>>>>>>>>> Rudy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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