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[javaee-security-spec users] [jsr375-experts] Re: 1-TerminologyAuthInteractionVsStore ACTION: cast vote

From: arjan tijms <arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 13:56:50 +0100

Hi,

The doc is a great start, thanks Alex :)

I noticed that relevant to the issue described in this thread, the document
has chosen the term "Realm" for the concept of "the store where
users/callers and optionally the group/role data resides".

Does this indicates your preference, or is it just the term Shiro happened
to use?

What about a round of voting (non-binding at this stage, just to test the
waters)? That way we at least can establish a working term that we can use
in the different discussions and issues that have already all started to
use different terms.

The list of proposed terms is now the following:

   1. security provider (WebLogic)
   2. realm (Tomcat, Shiro, some hints in Servlet spec)
   3. (authentication) repository
   4. (authentication) store
   5. login module (JAAS)
   6. identity manager (Undertow)
   7. service provider
   8. relying party
   9. authenticator (Resin, OmniSecurity, Seam Security)
   10. user service (?, used by 375 JSR)
   11. authentication provider (Spring Security)
   12. identity provider

I'd like to ask everyone on this list to vote for your preferred term.
David had already expressed favoring "store" in the JIRA issue, which is
together with "repository" also my favorite, although I like to prefix it
with "authentication".

So the current outcome is:

David Blevins: Store
Arjan Tijms: Authentication Store

Kind regards,
Arjan Tijms






On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 3:25 AM, Alex Kosowski <alex.kosowski_at_oracle.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I created a draft document for adding/editing EE Security API Terminology
> on an on-going basis.
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eaNCUa78Eytt73WYvDHrsS3klTzHL0xD5vswHhT-KVY/edit?usp=sharing
>
> This a Google doc viewable by the public and editable by those in the
> Google Group jsr375-experts_at_googlegroups.com, of which all of you should
> be a member. <http://jsr375-experts@googlegroups.com,>
>
> Alex
>
>
> On 3/8/15 5:01 PM, arjan tijms wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> A while ago I createdhttps://java.net/jira/browse/JAVAEE_SECURITY_SPEC-1, which seeks to
> establish clear terminology for two concepts that often come up in
> authentication:
>
> 1. The (user) interaction method via which credentials are obtained
> (FORM, BASIC, etc)
> 2. The store where users/callers and optionally the group/role data resides
>
> Not only do I see very different terms being used for both of these
> concepts which is a problem by itself, but the lack of consistent
> terminology makes it unclear what people are really asking at times.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
> Kind regards,
> Arjan Tijms
>
>