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[jsr375-experts] Re: Fwd: [javaee-security-proposals] add a proposal for a SecurityBindingType (#6)

From: Jean-Louis Monteiro <jlmonteiro_at_tomitribe.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 15:30:50 +0100

No he's not definitely :)
I thought he subscribed and sent the answer to the user mailing list, but
actually not.

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Jean-Louis Monteiro
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On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Werner Keil <werner.keil_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> He's not an EG member as of now?;-)
>
> Werner
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> jlmonteiro_at_tomitribe.com> wrote:
>
>> Forwarding to the list, cause Mark's email got rejected.
>> --
>> Jean-Louis Monteiro
>> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
>> http://www.tomitribe.com
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Mark Struberg <struberg_at_yahoo.de>
>> Date: Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: [javaee-security-proposals] add a proposal for a
>> SecurityBindingType (#6)
>> To: javaee-security-spec/javaee-security-proposals <
>> reply+000135ce1364376c5efe16bf4e6ed308196648a8fd2927ce92cf00000001112a6d4492a16.github.com
>> >
>> Cc: David Blevins <dblevins_at_tomitribe.com>, arjan tijms <
>> arjan.tijms_at_gmail.com>, Jean-Louis Monteiro <jlmonteiro_at_tomitribe.com>
>>
>>
>> Hi Arjan!
>>
>> The SecurityBindingType is neither Role nor Permission based actually. It
>> allows for a flexible integration on whatever level your company needs. In
>> fact I basically almost always had a mixture of roles and permissions to
>> check for. Often they are also tenant specific! And sometimes there are
>> multiple AND vs OR requirements as well.
>> So it basically boils down to being a VERY company and business related
>> topic. And this is what is really the strength of this approach. It allows
>> to add any payload you like to your security annotation. Much like with
>> Interceptor annotations can get any payload you like.
>>
>>
>> LieGrue,
>> strub
>>
>> PS: if my mail doesn’t make it through to the spec list then plz forward
>> it for me - txs!
>>
>>
>> > Am 25.03.2015 um 13:34 schrieb Arjan Tijms <notifications_at_github.com>:
>> >
>> > Just wondering how to categorize this example.
>> >
>> > It's an authorization example it seems, but is this an example of a CDI
>> based "@RolesAllowed" (as proposed in
>> https://java.net/jira/browse/JAVAEE_SECURITY_SPEC-23), or is this closer
>> to the "@EvaluateSecured" (as proposed in
>> https://java.net/jira/browse/JAVAEE_SECURITY_SPEC-7 see also
>> https://github.com/javaee-security-spec/javaee-security-proposals/tree/master/el-authorization
>> )?
>> >
>> > @dblevins Should be perhaps already start thinking about organization
>> of this repo? A first level "authentication" and "authorization" perhaps?
>> Then authentication organized in "mechanism" and "store" (even though we
>> don't have a final term for that last one yet).
>> >
>> > At least make people a bit aware of what they are exactly demoing, and
>> how it fits into the grand scheme of things? Maybe Rudy's mindmap and my
>> diagram can be of help here too.
>> >
>> > —
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