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Re: Streaming server with Grizzly

From: Jeanfrancois Arcand <Jeanfrancois.Arcand_at_Sun.COM>
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:12:45 -0400

Salut,

Survivant 00 wrote:
> so Comet will be good for the server streaming audio, but if I want a
> more complex design.. the client can stream too. Should I use Comet on
> the client side too, and send the data to the server ( the client became
> a server too)... can Cometd handle that ?

Not Cometd. Cometd (the Bayeux Protocol) is a JSON based protocol build
on top of HTTP. It's like a publish/subscribe protocol, and streaming
using Bayeux might be over complicated (not sure you can do that right
now).

For the client yes your can use Comet as well, but the problem right now
is we don't have a http client implementation....but if you want to
help, it should be simple enough to take the parser from the http module
and use it for a non blocking http client. Once we have the http client
it will be quite simple to add Comet on top of it.

I'm really interested to have a http client. It is something we need for
sure, just need time to do it :-)

A+

-- Jeanfrancois



>
>
>
> 2008/9/19 Jeanfrancois Arcand <Jeanfrancois.Arcand_at_sun.com
> <mailto:Jeanfrancois.Arcand_at_sun.com>>
>
> Salut,
>
>
> Survivant 00 wrote:
>
> suppose that I want to do it with http protocol. What should I
> use ? (the client will be in java too)
>
> - plain Grizzly as server ?
> - comet ?
>
>
> Hey hey of course Comet! :-) Seriously you have 2 choices:
>
> (1) Extend the http module (via the Adapter/GrizzlyAdapter interface)[1]
> and implement you own way of suspending/resuming using AsyncFilter[2]
>
> (2) Use Grizzly Comet Framework to resume/suspend connection, and your
> application using a Servlet.
>
> Both should works :-)
>
> A+
>
> -- Jeanfrancois
>
> [1]https://grizzly.dev.java.net/nonav/apidocs/com/sun/grizzly/tcp/http11/GrizzlyAdapter.html
> [2]https://grizzly.dev.java.net/nonav/apidocs/com/sun/grizzly/arp/AsyncFilter.html
>
>
>
>
> - package http of grizzly ?
> - grizzlet ?
> - glassfish as webserver ?
>
>
>
>
> 2008/9/18 Survivant 00 <survivant00_at_gmail.com
> <mailto:survivant00_at_gmail.com> <mailto:survivant00_at_gmail.com
> <mailto:survivant00_at_gmail.com>>>
>
>
> I found this protocol
> http://jstun.javawi.de/
>
> but I wanted to validate if the Grizzly Community ever did or
> try to
> setup a server/client through a NAT network.
>
> Will be fun to try..(will give you the code when it's ready)
> suggestions are welcome.
>
> 2008/9/18 Jeanfrancois Arcand <Jeanfrancois.Arcand_at_sun.com
> <mailto:Jeanfrancois.Arcand_at_sun.com>
> <mailto:Jeanfrancois.Arcand_at_sun.com
> <mailto:Jeanfrancois.Arcand_at_sun.com>>>
>
>
> Salut,
>
>
> Survivant 00 wrote:
>
> does Grizzly have custom protocol handler to handler udp
> through NAT and firewalled network ?
>
>
> No, but should this configured at the JDK level? You have to
> train myself on that topic :-)
>
> A+
>
> --Jeanfrancois
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2008/9/18 Oleksiy Stashok <Oleksiy.Stashok_at_sun.com
> <mailto:Oleksiy.Stashok_at_sun.com>
> <mailto:Oleksiy.Stashok_at_sun.com
> <mailto:Oleksiy.Stashok_at_sun.com>>
> <mailto:Oleksiy.Stashok_at_sun.com
> <mailto:Oleksiy.Stashok_at_sun.com>
> <mailto:Oleksiy.Stashok_at_sun.com
> <mailto:Oleksiy.Stashok_at_sun.com>>>>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
> a little question. I would like to do as my next
> demo, a music
> streaming server using Grizzly.
>
> Sounds very interesting! :)
>
>
> Frist, there is a demo that do live
> broadcasting (not
> a push,
> but continually sending data to all users). I
> don't
> know if I
> should use async write or not.
>
> I would say yes - async write could be better to make
> server more
> scalable.
>
>
> any suggestion how I shoudl start and what I
> should
> consider in
> my design ?
>
> Hmm... I don't have any experience in broadcasting
> audio/video.
> However I would expect you should write such a
> protocol
> on top of
> UDP, right? Probably with some reliability features.
>
>
> I suppose that the client will have a buffer
> and no, or a
> little, latency on the network, and no error
> recovery
> (the data
> will be lost.. that's it)..
>
> Right. With UDP it's doable.
>
> Thanks.
>
> WBR,
> Alexey.
>
>
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