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Re: (IMPORTANT) please follow bug filing procedure

From: Davis Nguyen <Davis.Nguyen_at_Sun.COM>
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:33:56 -0700

Another point I want to share here is that a good bug should has a clear
description and specific steps to reproduce it.
The more specific and detail is the better. It will help developers a
lot when comes time to review them.
So, please put your extra effort to search for duplicate bug and write a
detail problem, just assume if someone does not know the product but be
able to reproduce your problem.

Thanks,
-davis


Snjezana Sevo-Zenzerovic wrote:

> I feel like Bill Murray's character in "Groundhog Day" movie....
>
> While I realize that in some cases it may not be that easy to tell if
> an issue is duplicate, in this case it should be rather obvious that
>
> https://glassfish.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=7913
> is duplicate of
> https://glassfish.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=7731
>
> (incidentally, issue will eventually be marked as invalid, but that's
> different story and requires evaluation).
>
> Once more, please do take couple of minutes of your time to at least
> skim the list of existing bugs. Also, please do not file updatetool
> bugs in upgrade_tool subcategory - they should be filed either in
> update_center subcategory, or, as Tom Mueller was kind to point out
> previously, in their source project issue tracker:
>
> https://updatecenter.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectIssues
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> Judy Tang wrote:
>
>> I talked with SJSU Professor Gao who has been very supportive. And
>> we agreed on the following:
>>
>> Students will use school bug system to report bugs found by negative
>> testing. If students find
>> P1/P2 bug from positive testing, they will send email to GlassFish
>> quality alias, SQE and developer
>> will let them know to log a bug or not. We really like to see those
>> good P1/P2 bugs filed by
>> students and we like to encourage students to test deeper and wider
>> to find those good bugs.
>>
>> I have also communicated with a few students to point out those
>> dup/invalid bugs to them, they
>> are very welcome to my input and they are working on to improve. It
>> is true that we don't
>> have a very good way to query for dup bugs, one area to improve.
>>
>> As always we appreciate students/community testing GlassFish very
>> much ! A good communication
>> is the key to make the community testing working. We welcome your
>> valuable input :-)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Judy
>>
>> Judy Tang wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Snjezana and Anissa for the valuable input. And thanks
>>> Manfred for the suggestion.
>>>
>>> To encourage students learning at the same time not introducing
>>> dup/invalid bugs to the system,
>>> I would like students to do the following:
>>>
>>> (1) Please do not file negative test bugs in Admin GUI, Installer,
>>> Update tool since most cases are
>>> already reported and when developer fix one place, they most likely
>>> will take care of the
>>> same situation for other places, some time the fix in one place will
>>> address other cases. Just to give
>>> you an example last night and this morning Yifeng and Anissa
>>> processed more than 70 dup/invalid
>>> bugs. This need to stop !
>>>
>>> (2) Please try more main functional/positive end to end testing,
>>> when you see any issue, please send
>>> email to quality alias first, SQE and developer will evaluate the
>>> issue and let you know a bug
>>> is needed or not.
>>>
>>> It is first time we have so many students testing GlassFish, we are
>>> very happy to have
>>> you here to learn and to help, because this is first time, we also
>>> have a lot lesson to learn together on how
>>> to handling dup/invalid bugs. We will keep improving. With your
>>> help we will :-)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Judy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Manfred Riem wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi there,
>>>>
>>>> Maybe the professor should assign a team lead that files
>>>> the bugs. So no filing before the team lead has collected
>>>> them?
>>>>
>>>> Manfred
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>> Subject: Re: (IMPORTANT) please follow bug filing procedure
>>>>> From: Anissa Lam <Anissa.Lam_at_Sun.COM>
>>>>> Date: Thu, April 16, 2009 1:59 pm
>>>>> To: quality_at_glassfish.dev.java.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I second that.
>>>>> Please use your common sense when filing bugs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Last night, a student filed 43 Admin GUI issues, all of them are
>>>>> either duplicate, no clear description of what is wrong, not
>>>>> reproducible or invalid. It takes both QA and Eng. hours to
>>>>> clean that up late last night, only to find yet another similar
>>>>> batch come in.
>>>>> Judy has send several guidelines and there are umbrella bug
>>>>> available for adding comments. PLEASE follow the guidelines.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>>> Anissa.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Snjezana Sevo-Zenzerovic wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Plea from frustrated and swamped GF engineer:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Please go through existing bug list before filing your issue.
>>>>>> Time I am spending evaluating and closing issues which are very
>>>>>> obvious duplicates of existing issues could be much better used
>>>>>> fixing some of genuine issues.
>>>>>> * Consider filing umbrella bugs for similar issues or issues that
>>>>>> are likely to have the same root cause. For instance, if you
>>>>>> cannot install several packages from Admin GUI, you don't have to
>>>>>> file separate issue for each one of them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>
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