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Re: HEADSUP - need decision on which GF build to use for testing

From: Lloyd L Chambers <Lloyd.Chambers_at_Sun.COM>
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:20:29 -0700

It's more confusing to have just *one* bundle, but *two* builds.

Two builds => two bundles

Lloyd Chambers

On Aug 25, 2006, at 12:56 PM, Carla Mott wrote:

> It's confusing to have multiple bundles. When
> we annouced the final version of GlassFish (v1) was available
> we got lots of questions around clustering and EE features and
> when those would be available.
>
> I think the question is why should there be more than one? If
> someone doesn't want to use the EE features then he doesn't
> have to. And if in the future the user does want to use that feature
> well then it is a matter of enabling it.
> One bundle means a very simple story from the user's perspective.
>
> Carla
>
> Manfred Riem wrote:
>
>> Is there any reason to only have one?
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Carla.Mott_at_Sun.COM [mailto:Carla.Mott_at_Sun.COM] Sent:
>> Thursday, August 24, 2006 1:30 PM
>> To: dev_at_glassfish.dev.java.net
>> Subject: Re: HEADSUP - need decision on which GF build to use for
>> testing
>>
>> I thought the plan is to only have one and that is what we now
>> call EE. Sometime
>> in the next several weeks we will switch to only promote one bundle.
>>
>> Carla
>>
>> Manfred Riem wrote:
>>
>>> Simple, both once both are in production. For now it should be PE ;)
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *From:* Tom.Amiro_at_Sun.COM [mailto:Tom.Amiro_at_Sun.COM]
>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2006 12:20 PM
>>> *To:* Martin Matula
>>> *Cc:* tango_pteam_at_Sun.COM; dev_at_glassfish.dev.java.net
>>> *Subject:* Re: HEADSUP - need decision on which GF build to use
>>> for testing
>>>
>>> Martin,
>>>
>>> Thanks for raising this issue. I'm copying glassfish dev, because
>>> I think our decision greatly depends on which version the
>>> Glassfish team going forward is going to encourage developers to
>>> use as the default platform.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> Martin Matula wrote:
>>>
>>>> GF b14 has been promoted - this is the build we will do the
>>>> milestone testing with. However the default version linked from
>>>> the download page (https://glassfish.dev.java.net/downloads/v2-
>>>> b14.html) is "EE", not "PE". We found out the same was true for
>>>> the GF 2 Milestone 1 build already.
>>>> PE edition that we used to be testing with is also accessible,
>>>> but from http://download.java.net/javaee5/promoted/.
>>>> We need to decide by COB today whether we should test with the
>>>> PE (more preferable for QA to minimize the risks of regressions
>>>> caused by GF bugs), or EE (the default edition available to
>>>> users). See the thread below for more discussion.
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> --
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> Subject:
>>>> Re: [Fwd: glassfish v2 build b14 has been promoted]
>>>> From:
>>>> Martin Matula <Martin.Matula_at_Sun.COM>
>>>> Date:
>>>> Fri, 25 Aug 2006 19:51:03 +0200
>>>> To:
>>>> Tom Amiro <Tom.Amiro_at_Sun.COM>
>>>>
>>>> To:
>>>> Tom Amiro <Tom.Amiro_at_Sun.COM>
>>>> CC:
>>>> Deepak V R <Deepak.Vr_at_Sun.COM>, tango_qa_at_sun.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't think it is acceptable to point users to the page Deepak
>>>> mentioned. We would need to create a page similar to https://
>>>> glassfish.dev.java.net/downloads/v2-b14.html pointing to the PE
>>>> builds for all platforms and containing installation instructions.
>>>> Is that really what we want to do? The last promotion ran on GF
>>>> 2 EE (Milestone 1) already and we noticed no regression.
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>> Tom Amiro wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Deepak and Martin,
>>>>>
>>>>> On the page Deepak lists, both EE and PE versions are
>>>>> available. So I still say we should go with the PE version.
>>>>> Switching to the EE version to which clustering was recently
>>>>> added is asking for trouble.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>> Deepak V R wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Martin,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, glassfish promotion mailer is not giving enough
>>>>>> information. If you go to [1] your find jars they mention in
>>>>>> the promotion email. They should point to this link in the
>>>>>> promotion email. And we must also mention it in our milestone
>>>>>> page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> -Deepak
>>>>>> [1] http://download.java.net/javaee5/promoted/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Martin Matula wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom,
>>>>>>> users do not have access to javaweb.sfbay - they have access
>>>>>>> only to glassfish.dev.java.net. If I go there, the only
>>>>>>> download I see seems to be the ee download (without "pe" in
>>>>>>> the name). So, I don't think we should be using "pe".
>>>>>>> Martin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom Amiro wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Want to make sure everyone see this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think we should be using the PE version
>>>>>>>> PE without Clustering:
>>>>>>>> glassfish-image-pe-v2-b14.jar
>>>>>>>> glassfish-pe-installer-v2-b14.jar
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
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