Thanks Anissa. But I am sorry, I don't agree.
On the GUI, we don't have to mimic what's there in the schema (which
is confusing, IMO).
I was *genuinely* confused when I wanted to turn on the security on
admin-listener. I think we have regressed here from V2 without any
apparent gain because in V2, there was a simple check-box to make
admin-listener (or any listener) secure. I can bet you'll get some
frowns if we don't make this easy to understand and configure.
Remember, end user does not care if security-enabled attribute is
on a <network-listener> element or on a <protocol> element. All they
want to do is to secure the admin-listener, mostly without having
to do the RTFM. Telling them, yeah, there's a way, but you'll need to
know and understand this new indirection called "protocols", is a step
backwards.
Regarding HCI guidelines -- well, I just don't get them. BTW,
this was not how we did it for V2. Have the guidelines changed?
Labeling an unchecked box as "Enabled" is simply counter-intuitive.
Also, my point regarding turning off the feed was -- there should
be an obvious way to tell admin console that it does not try to connect
to the Internet. We have been there as you know and my question was
whether you had a simple flag somewhere that does that. (Also, note that
there is an annoying issue of authenticating proxy servers).
-Kedar
Anissa Lam wrote:
>
> Hi Kedar,
>
> Please see comments inline.
>
> Kedar Mhaswade wrote:
>> First off, great job on console! I like the GlassFish News Section.
>>
>> (I hope there is a way to turn off the Internet access though).
> Most of those is RSS feed, so without internet access, you don't see
> much.
>>
>> Hope these are simple questions on GlassFish v3 (latest workspace build):
>>
>> 1- Does anyone know how to turn on "security" on an http-listener? I see
>> no check-box like interface when I do: Network Config -> Network
>> Listeners
>> ->(Choose a listener) -> View the property sheet.
>>
> The security enable attribute is not with the Network Listener, it is
> specified in the Protocol that is associated with the listener. We
> can improve this by adding a link to the protocol page in the Listener
> page itself as there maybe other attributes of the protocol that one may
> want to change besides security.
> The easiest is click on the Protocol link in the Network Listeners table
> (attached listerns-table.gif)
>
> My pet peeve is the name of the Protocol, why a protocal has the name
> of "listener" ?? this is too confusing.
>
>> It's hard to find the admin listener. Can we do something about it?
>> (like -- Is it possible to provide a link to network listeners from
>> HTTP
>> Service configuration page?)
> Yes, everything is possible, almost, given the time :)
>>
>> 2- This is general observation with check-boxes. Regardless of status
>> of these
>> check-boxes, i.e. regardless whether they are checked or unchecked,
>> I keep
>> on seeing a label named "Enabled" (yes, that's right, even when the
>> check-box
>> is unchecked, it reads "Enabled").
>> I think it is wrong and at times annoys me ;). Can we just remove
>> the label?
> No. Sorry ;-)
> This is in accordance to our HCI-Admin guideline. Specified in section
> 7.2.1.1 Checkbox. Please see attached image (checkbox.gif)
>> If not, can we change it to obey the visual status of the check-box?
> Thats is a label, nothing to do with the actual status of that attribute.
>>
>> (See attached image that illustrates the point).
> Maybe i am biased, but it is very clear to me that Enabled is not
> checked, so, that particular attribute is disabled. :)
>
> Anissa.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kedar
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