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Re: JMX ObjectNames and categories

From: Sreenivas Munnangi <Sreenivas.Munnangi_at_Sun.COM>
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:30:41 -0700

Jerome Dochez wrote:
> so do we already have an inconsistency in v2 ?
Let me clarify.

In V2, for all the MBeans (other than AMX) there is category key in the
object name, for ex. category=config for config mBeans, category=runtime
for jsr77 mBeans and category=monitor for monitoring mBeans.

Now we are planning to have just one set of mBeans, which is AMX and the
question is should we have a key similar to category and what are the
pros and cons.
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> Sreenivas Munnangi wrote:
>> Lloyd L Chambers wrote:
>>> Sreeni,
>>>
>>> Please don't do this unless ALL of AMX does--it's a consistency
>>> issue; AMX is *one* API not a mishmash of unrelated MBeans.
>>>
>>> The benefits must be clearly understood before making such an
>>> (incompatible) decision.
>> I was explaining the V2 behavior and I agree we need to be consistent.
>>>
>>> Lloyd
>>>
>>> On Mar 18, 2008, at 1:34 PM, Sreenivas Munnangi wrote:
>>>> Lloyd,
>>>>
>>>> I am sure you know this but for the benefit of others, in V2 all
>>>> the jsr77 runtime mebans have "category=runtime" as part of its
>>>> object name. Then it is possible to query only the runtime mbeans.
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>> sreeni
>>>>
>>>> Lloyd L Chambers wrote:
>>>>> One issue I'm considering for AMX ObjectNames is whether to
>>>>> include a property in the ObjectName which categorizes the MBean
>>>>> eg "config", "runtime", etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> In V2 AMX had no such thing; ObjectNames were strictly limited
>>>>> only to properties that made the ObjectName unique among others.
>>>>> However, the "com.sun.appserv:" MBeans did have a "category"
>>>>> property.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why add such a property? (And where does one stop?!). It can be
>>>>> useful for selecting a subset of MBeans based on functionality eg
>>>>> "all config MBeans".
>>>>>
>>>>> WITHOUT: amx:j2eeType=X-DomainConfig,name=amx (Glassfish V2)
>>>>> POSSIBLE: amx:j2eeType=X-DomainConfig,name=na,grp=config //
>>>>> possible change, 'grp' = "group"
>>>>>
>>>>> AMX MBeans already have a "Group" Attribute which does this, but
>>>>> one cannot query ObjectNames based on MBean attributes. Note also
>>>>> that the value of the j2eeType field is 100% consistent eg
>>>>> everything ending in "Config" is a config MBean--but again, not
>>>>> actionable via queryNames().
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm inclined to stick with the V2 style even though a group or
>>>>> category property is handy ('grp'). Comments welcome.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lloyd
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Lloyd L Chambers
>>>>> lloyd.chambers_at_sun.com
>>>>> Sun Microsystems, Inc
>>>>>
>>>>>
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