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[ejb-spec users] [jsr345-experts] Re: TimerService.getAllTimers() (EJB_SPEC-47)

From: Antonio Goncalves <antonio.goncalves_at_gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 21:52:13 +0200

Instead of choosing between 1a & 1b, why don't we pass a scope as a
parameter ? We have the JNDI scopes that we could mimic : comp, module,
application, global... So why not having getAllTimers(Scope.Module)
or getAllTimers(Scope.Application) ? If Java EE 7 is (at last) mentioning
clustering in the spec, why not having an extra Cluster scope
? getAllTimers(Scope.Cluster) would return all the timers across the
cluster.

Antonio

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <jeanouii_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Marina,
>
> Yes, that is definitely useful.
> Being able to cancel a set of Timer spread on a cluster i don't necessary
> started, looks dangerous to me at first glance.
>
> That's why I choose 3b. Then, it means that it's just for information
> purpose if I don't own the Timer.
>
> Jean-Louis
>
>
>
> 2012/6/20 Marina Vatkina <marina.vatkina_at_oracle.com>
>
>> Returning to this item...
>>
>>
>> Florent and Jean-Louis,
>>
>> Did you miss my question: "You chose 3b, so do you think that the new API
>> is useful even if it is for information purpose only"?
>>
>>
>> Experts, we still have an almost even split between 3a and 3b, so please
>> cast your votes (if you don't think the new API is useful, please say so as
>> well).
>>
>> thanks,
>> -marina
>>
>>
>> Marina Vatkina wrote:
>>
>>> We have 2 votes for 3a and 2 votes for 3b.
>>>
>>> Those of you who didn't vote, please do so.
>>>
>>> Florent, Jean-Louis, (you chose 3b) do you still think that the new API
>>> is useful? What would in your opinion the caller be able to do with the
>>> timers returned by this API?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> -marina
>>>
>>> Florent BENOIT wrote:
>>>
>>>> 1a
>>>> 2b
>>>> 3b
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Florent
>>>>
>>>> On 04/18/2012 11:01 PM, Marina Vatkina wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Experts,
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you think it is useful to add a method to the TimerService -
>>>>> getAllTimers() - (see http://java.net/jira/browse/**EJB_SPEC-47<http://java.net/jira/browse/EJB_SPEC-47>)
>>>>> that will allow to get a collection of all active timers in this
>>>>> application?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you think it is useful, which options should be supported:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Scope
>>>>> a) All timers in the same EJB module
>>>>> b) All timers in the same application (EAR file)
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Runtime:
>>>>> a) Timers from 1a or 1b running on the same server instance
>>>>> b) Timers from 1a or 1b running on any instance in the cluster
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Cancelation:
>>>>> a) Timers returned by this method can be canceled by the caller (i.e.
>>>>> even if it doesn't own the timer)
>>>>> b) Only the bean that owns a timer can cancel it.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you think there is no need for the new API, please say so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> -marina
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>


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